Coroner Rejects Pathologist Who Conducted Postmortem In Favor Of UiTM Physics Lecturer; Creates Another Indira Gandhi situation
Coroner conclude 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 persons? On what basis did the coroner come to these conclusions? There must be a solid basis for saying things like this.
Coroner Rofiah Mohamad said blunt force trauma not caused by himself or through accident.
OSTB : Of course he did not kill himself. How come the Coroner has not considered negligence? Or criminal negligence?
"Hospital Kuala Lumpur forensics specialist Dr Ahmad Hafizam Hasmi said the injuries sustained by Adib in the Seafield Sri Maha Mariamman Temple riot on Nov 27 were likely due to him being hit by a vehicle."
The Coroner has not given solid reasons why she has rejected the report by forensics specialist Dr Ahmad Hafizam Hasmi.
She added that Adib’s death has been classified as a criminal case.
“It is now up to the police and the attorney-general to bring charges,” she said.
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So he began responding well to treatment.
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OSTB : So Adib was getting better and better. From showing thumbs up, to being able to recognise Rosmah and Najib to being able to 'sudah boleh menulis'.
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Rofiah rejected evidence of forensic expert Dr Ahmad Hafizam Hasmi who conducted the autopsy and told court he found no injuries consistent with violent acts. Hafizam told court Adib had been hit by fire engine despatched to scene.
OSTB : I can tell you straight away that this would be the first time in the history of Malaysia where a Coroner's court has rejected the scientific examination by a trained medical doctor and forensic pathologist who also conducted the autopsy on the body.
On what basis did the Coroner Rofiah reject the official autopsy report conducted by the forensic expert Dr Ahmad Hafizam Hasmi? There must be a proper basis for her to reject the entire autopsy report !! This is getting quite ridiculous.
Rofiah instead accepted testimony of UiTM physics lecturer Amir Rafzi Ab Ghani, who suggested that Adib had been pulled out of the Emergency Medical Rescue Services van.
OSTB : Mak datuk !! UiTM lecturer in physics ?? Did the lecturer in Physics even get a chance to see the body of Adib? In contrast to the forensic pathologist who actually conducted an autopsy on the dead body?
On what basis did the lecturer come to the conclusion that Adib was pulled out of the van? Compared to the forensic pathologists scientific finding that there was a vertical trauma to Adib's rib cage consistent to being hit by the open door of the Bomba truck.
Elaborating on Adib’s left rib injuries, he said they were consistent with being hit by “something blunt, hard, straight and vertical”.
based on a reconstruction of the scene on Dec 22, where he also spoke to the EMRS driver Adib was sitting next to on Nov 27, it was “most probable” that Adib was outside the van.
He said Adib must have been standing, with his back to the van, and was hit by the left open back door of the EMRS as it was pushed backwards by the reversing fire rescue tender (FRT) truck in front of it.
“The cross-shaped scratch on his left back could have been caused by the friction from being scrapped by the left door handle of the EMRS,” he said, forcing him to fall.
So can the Coroner explain how 'two or more people' could have caused a vertical injury stretching over Adib's ribs ? Did they hit him with a straight piece of wood or steel. No one has testified anywhere that anyone saw Adib being hit with anything - hockey stick, crash helmet, piece of wood, an iron rod, a sharp object nothing. None at all.
So how can the Coroner dismiss this part of the autopsy report as well?
She also referred to the medical assistant at IJN who testified that Adib had indicated to him that he was pulled from behind and beaten up during the fracas. Muhammad Ashraf Baruji, who took care of Adib at the ICU for 21 days, told the inquest he had communicated with the fireman using sign language and a whiteboard.
OSTB : Then how come there were no defensive wounds on Adam. The autopsy report says that Adib did not defend himself against anything. And there were absolutely no injuries to his face and head. This is not consistent with someone being attacked by a mob. But it is fully consistent with injuries caused by a truck that is reversing in panic.
Conclusion : The Coroner has now created an Indira Gandhi situation. Plus an Amri Che Mat situation.
Meaning the case will not get resolved.
Indira Gandhi's ex husband cannot be found even after 10 years.
The location of Amri Che Mat's body has not been divulged although there are people who would know where his body is. Try asking the kidnap team.
The Coroner has said that it is now up to the Police to bring criminal charges. Against who?
The Police have already arrested and then had to let go some Indian boys who were there on Nov 27th 2018. The Police found no evidence to hold the boys responsible for Adib's death.
So is the Coroner suggesting now that the Police re-arrest those same Indian boys? Or that the Police go and look for other Indians who were there that night?
I dont think that is going to happen. So at the end of the day no one is going to be charged for the death of Adib.
OSTB : How can the police bring charges when the police already arrested some Indian boys and then had to release them. There is no evidence that any of the Indian boys in that area at that time caused any injury to Adib.
Adib died at the National Heart Institute (IJN) on Dec 17, 2018.
OSTB : The injuries were sustained on Nov 27, 2018. This means that Adib survived for 21 days.
Dr Ahmad Hafizam testified that some of Adib's broken ribs were not detected by the earlier X rays. Hence those broken ribs were not treated immediately.
On 28th Nov. 2018 Adib was transferred to the IJN where he responded well to treatment. Here is news from the next day 29th Nov. 2018.
So he began responding well to treatment. Then SEVEN DAYS later on December 5th, 2018 Rosmah and Najib visited Adib and Rosmah says Adib showed her a 'thumbs up'. This is as per the report by Astro Awani :
Meaning Adib was getting better by December 5th, 2018. Here is another picture where there is a group of people with Adib and all of them are showing 'thumbs up'. I do not know the date of this picture
Then another THREE DAYS later by 10th December, 2018 the Berita Harian reported that Zuraida Kamarudin visited Adib and that Adib 'sudah boleh menulis'. Here is the Berita Harian :
OSTB : So Adib was getting better and better. From showing thumbs up, to being able to recognise Rosmah and Najib to being able to 'sudah boleh menulis'. Adib was also able to do weight training with dumb bells.
Asked if the use of dumbbells by Adib while being treated at IJN and being told to raise his hands could have contributed to the fracture, Ahmad said it “would have”. IJN senior cardiothoracic consultant surgeon Dr Mohamed Ezani Md Taib had told the inquest previously that Adib used special weights in what he described as “passive physio” to strengthen his muscles.
Over 21 days in hospital he awoke from his coma and was able to recognise visitors, he was doing weight training with dumb bells and he was able to write 'sudah boleh menulis'.
Then suddenly his health took a turn for the worse and he died. How come? Was there negligence at the two hospitals which treated him? Because the pathologist Dr Ahmad Hafizam said that FIVE OF ADIB'S RIBS WERE BROKEN DURING TREATMENT AT THE SJMC AND THE IJN.
OSTB : Was there serious infection in his chest cavity caused by late detection of all his broken ribs? The Coroner makes no mention of either investigating or dismissing these possibilities. The Coroner is totally silent. Having FIVE of your ribs broken is not a small matter. Broken ribs have sharp edges which would have torn tissues and caused infections.
OSTB : I can tell you straight away that this would be the first time in the history of Malaysia where a Coroner's court has rejected the scientific examination by a trained medical doctor and forensic pathologist who also conducted the autopsy on the body.
On what basis did the Coroner Rofiah reject the official autopsy report conducted by the forensic expert Dr Ahmad Hafizam Hasmi? There must be a proper basis for her to reject the entire autopsy report !! This is getting quite ridiculous.
Rofiah instead accepted testimony of UiTM physics lecturer Amir Rafzi Ab Ghani, who suggested that Adib had been pulled out of the Emergency Medical Rescue Services van.
OSTB : Mak datuk !! UiTM lecturer in physics ?? Did the lecturer in Physics even get a chance to see the body of Adib? In contrast to the forensic pathologist who actually conducted an autopsy on the dead body?
On what basis did the lecturer come to the conclusion that Adib was pulled out of the van? Compared to the forensic pathologists scientific finding that there was a vertical trauma to Adib's rib cage consistent to being hit by the open door of the Bomba truck.
Elaborating on Adib’s left rib injuries, he said they were consistent with being hit by “something blunt, hard, straight and vertical”.
based on a reconstruction of the scene on Dec 22, where he also spoke to the EMRS driver Adib was sitting next to on Nov 27, it was “most probable” that Adib was outside the van.
He said Adib must have been standing, with his back to the van, and was hit by the left open back door of the EMRS as it was pushed backwards by the reversing fire rescue tender (FRT) truck in front of it.
“The cross-shaped scratch on his left back could have been caused by the friction from being scrapped by the left door handle of the EMRS,” he said, forcing him to fall.
So can the Coroner explain how 'two or more people' could have caused a vertical injury stretching over Adib's ribs ? Did they hit him with a straight piece of wood or steel. No one has testified anywhere that anyone saw Adib being hit with anything - hockey stick, crash helmet, piece of wood, an iron rod, a sharp object nothing. None at all.
So how can the Coroner dismiss this part of the autopsy report as well?
She also referred to the medical assistant at IJN who testified that Adib had indicated to him that he was pulled from behind and beaten up during the fracas. Muhammad Ashraf Baruji, who took care of Adib at the ICU for 21 days, told the inquest he had communicated with the fireman using sign language and a whiteboard.
OSTB : Then how come there were no defensive wounds on Adam. The autopsy report says that Adib did not defend himself against anything. And there were absolutely no injuries to his face and head. This is not consistent with someone being attacked by a mob. But it is fully consistent with injuries caused by a truck that is reversing in panic.
Conclusion : The Coroner has now created an Indira Gandhi situation. Plus an Amri Che Mat situation.
Meaning the case will not get resolved.
Indira Gandhi's ex husband cannot be found even after 10 years.
The location of Amri Che Mat's body has not been divulged although there are people who would know where his body is. Try asking the kidnap team.
The Coroner has said that it is now up to the Police to bring criminal charges. Against who?
The Police have already arrested and then had to let go some Indian boys who were there on Nov 27th 2018. The Police found no evidence to hold the boys responsible for Adib's death.
So is the Coroner suggesting now that the Police re-arrest those same Indian boys? Or that the Police go and look for other Indians who were there that night?
I dont think that is going to happen. So at the end of the day no one is going to be charged for the death of Adib.